There were a million things to consider before we moved to Thailand, and one that was foremost in our minds was how we were going to cost effectively access our money with the hope of avoiding the dreaded foreign ATM fee. Here is our best recommendation for coming out on top against the greedy banksters!
What is a Foreign ATM Fee?
Simply put, a foreign ATM fee is a charge that banks slam you with for using an ATM outside of their home country.
We had heard horror stories about the outrageous fees imposed by US based banks on foreign ATM withdrawals. This is actually slapped on top of the fee charged by each individual ATM, which happens to be 150 baht ($5 USD) a pop in Thailand. We found that most US banks charge an average 3% foreign ATM fee on each withdrawal.
For example, if we were to withdrawal $500 to pay our rent, we would be slammed with a $15 foreign transaction fee plus the $5 ATM withdrawal fee. That’s a whopping $20 in fees just to access our own money. And because we rarely are able to pay with a credit card (Thailand is a predominantly cash based economy) we need to make a second withdrawal of $700 to cover our various living expenses. That is $46 a month – a minimum of $552 a year in fees – if we used a bank that didn’t have our best interests in mind!
If you’re truly on a budget, $554 in yearly fees isn’t something that you can just simply shrug your shoulders at. Luckily, we found a way to avoid this headache completely.
After doing a few hours of research, we came across the Charles Schwab High Yield Investor Checking Account. As far as we could gather they were (and still are) the only bank that would not impose a foreign ATM fee. And get this…they actually reimburse you for every withdrawal fee levied by ATMs on an unlimited amount withdrawals. During our first month here, when we frequented the ATM five times or more for various reasons trying to settle in, we were absolutely slammed with fees. We made sure to use our Charles Schwab ATM/Debit card for every transaction and at the end of the month noticed we had been reimbursed for each withdrawal for a total of $35.71 back in our pockets. We couldn’t believe it. We surely expected that we would be stuck eating the bill for at least one or two of the transactions, but we were quickly proven wrong.
Things to Consider When Choosing a Bank For Your Needs Abroad:
- Monthly service fees
- Minimum account balance
- Overdraft protection fees
- Interest earnings
- Foreign ATM Fee reimbursement
- Options for depositing money
- Quality of customer service
Charles Schwab Bank has easily checked these boxes for us so far. Remember, this is not just for the people who would like to live abroad on a permanent basis, but also for the backpacker, weekend traveler, or the couple that takes the vacation abroad once a year.
NOTE: This type of account must be opened with a free Charles Schwab Brokerage Account. No worries though, as you are not ever required to actually use it. Our account has remained dormant since we opened the account about a year ago.
Common Sense Money Tips While Traveling Abroad:
- Withdraw your limit each time you visit the ATM, especially if you don’t know when you might have access to an ATM again
- Have a backup bank account with a separate ATM card in the case that your primary account card is lost or stolen
- Have a backup credit card that does not charge foreign transaction fees e.g. The Capital One Venture Card
- If you have a large amount of money that you don’t intend to use, keep what you won’t be using in a high yield checking/savings account e.g. The Capital One High Yield Checking Account
- Keep up with the current daily exchange rate
- Monitor all of your accounts for any signs of fraud or identity theft
- Always notify your banks and/or credit card companies of the dates and location(s) of your upcoming travel. Don’t get stuck with empty pockets and frozen account for an unknown period of time!
Please pass this on. As discussed here, you could really be saving someone you know a ton of money and helping them to avoid a major headache! Know of any other money-saving tips for others traveling abroad? Please share you knowledge in the comment section below!
NOTE: We are in no way compensated for this post, nor are we in an agreement with Charles Schwab Bank or Capital One Bank. We are satisfied customers that would like to spread the word to anyone who is looking to travel overseas and is concerned about accessing their money intelligently and cheaply.
Hi Chris, I am a US citizen living in Republic of Panama. I currently pay a fortune in ATM fees here and I am very interested in the Schwab account, but is this for anywhere in the world or just Thailand? I see mostly people from Thailand are posting on here, just wondering if it would be good for me also.
Yes, it works anywhere in the world!
So I just talked to Charles Schwab, thanks to your advice, but the rep told me that it was only available for domestic customers and if I am gone for over 6 months, I become an international customer and this particular account is not available for international customers. I asked if they would really know and mentioned that I had read a blog about people who have been using their account this way and he said that CS can tell if you are abroad indefinitely and could close the account anytime and send a refund check. So I am wondering,… Read more »
We maintain an address in the US and always let Schwab know that we are traveling on and off in Thailand (with no disclosed end date). We went back to the US after 14 months, visited a physical branch to make some changes to our accounts, and used our cards for purchases during that time. We have never had any issues. We also always carry a higher balance, so maybe they look past our lengthy time abroad. We can tell you that we know countless Americans here that have the same experience :) Oh and we initially set up our… Read more »
Phew.. We have just arrived in Thailand within the past week and already been to the ATM a few times. We are trying to figure out the right balance. We do have the Charles Schwab, so we too thought we would eat the local bank fee. I was just doing google to see if there were ATM specific for CS so there would be no local fees and you popped up. I trust you so, here I am. :-) So CS adjusts that for us? That is so cool. It will be nice when we can figure out how much… Read more »
Yup! The ATM fee is charged to your account that day, but at the end of the month CS refunds you the sum of the monthly fees. We’re getting back around $40 this month alone. To cut back on monthly fees, the best we can recommend is to take out the max amount each time at the ATM – 20,000 baht or about $600 worth – since there’s a 150-160 baht ATM fee per transaction. Of course, put the bulk of your withdraws somewhere safe! There used to be a Thai ATM (AEON) that did not charge fees, but that… Read more »
Thanks a lot for your insights Chris! We’re moving to Indonesia but unfortunately we’re unable to open bank accounts at Capital one or Charles Schwab as we’re EU residents. Which bank accounts would you then advice? Thanks a lot, very appreciated. Alain
Great question! Any bank that is part of they Global ATM Network will waive certain foreign transition fees. According to Nomadic Matt, if you are from England, Wales, Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, use Barclays. If you are from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Spain, Portugal and Italy, use Deutsche Bank. Just make sure to read up on the bank’s policies for sure. We hope this sets you in the right direction.
AEON is no longer an option. They now also charge the extortionate 150 baht fee.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/703641-aeon-bank-now-charge-150-b-atm-fee
Schwab(hope it lasts) and bringing in cash are now the only fee free options.
Thing just keep going downhill when it comes to fees ( banks, airlines, etc.)
Ouch! Thanks for the heads up, Joe :(
i’ve been reading from a lot of people about charles schwab but i haven’t seen anywhere how i open such an account while i am living in chiangmai
Hello Yanny, only Charles Schwab offers accounts for US citizens at the moment. If you are American than just use the link at the bottom of this post to set up an account. Good luck!
Great analysis. For those from the UK, I don’t think there is a Schwab equivalent, but for credit card transactions I use a UK Capital One Mastercard which converts at the MC rate, without adding a 3% charge, so you can buy at close to spot rate. For ATM withdrawals, I found that a UK FairFX debit Mastercard only charges 1.4% for foreign ATM withdrawals (rather than 3%) + £1. So if you withdraw more than about £65, it is cheaper than the 3% normal rate, and the higher the amount, the lower the overall % as the £1 is… Read more »
Darryl, thank so much for providing such great insight for all of the folks stopping by from the UK. We really appreciate it. Hopefully there will be a Charles Schwab equivalent for you all very soon!
There are also AEON branches and atms at both Central Airport and Central Festival malls. The other branches can be searched for here.
Take care!
I can’t remember all of the details, but our bank, USAA has a similar program. ATM fees both here in the US and abroad are reimbursed. I think there may be a monthly limit, but it saves us a ton. No foreign transaction fees on their card either.
Really? I heard they used to reimburse foreign atm fees but we didn’t realize that they still did. I also have a USAA account so I am definitely going to have to check into it. Thanks for the tip! Charles Schwab has been great, but it would be awesome to have a backup plan ready.
They always have for us. Not sure if it’s on a particular type of account, but worth checking. I believe it’s up to $15 a month reimbursed, which is enough if you’re not withdrawing frequently.
Awesome. Thanks again, Tamara :)
Love the site guys you have a lot of great info here! We currently live in NC my wife is Thai and we hope to relocate there for our retirement years…..currently we’re living cheap investing/saving to make that happen sooner rather than later! For now we enjoy our yearly vacation trips to sight see/visit family. Getting around ATM/international fees will be big help. I’ll probably be opening a Schwab account soon. I read on another site about someone using Bangkok Bank and linking their U.S. account that and then accessing the money in Thailand pretty cheaply. They mentioned Bangkok Bank… Read more »
Does Charles Schwab know how much the ATM fees being levied because ATMs in Thailand add the 150 thb automatically? Is there a specific bank/ATM that one should use?
Hi, Charles Schwab is able to see the ATM fee that is levied because it is deducted from your account. Most fees are 150 Baht, but I have seem them as high as 180 Baht on occasion. If you have Charles Schwab then you don’t really have to worry about which atm you use. If you don’t have a Charles Schwab account then AEON is your best bet as their atms do not assess fee.
I’ve been really surprised that a lot of long time expats here don’t know about the Schwab card and have been paying ATM fees for years. Definitely the best deal ever.
Absolutely. We still can’t believe our eyes when we see how our ATM fee refunds at the end of every month. More people should be taking advantage of Charles Schwab!
Thank you for the information. Will save me a lot of money. My first visit to Thailand will be this September for a month to check it out.
No problem Aaron. I am glad I was able to help. The Charles Schwab account has definitely proven to be worthwhile for us!
Hi Agness! Thank you for checking us out! Yes, the ATM fees are steep, but we are glad we found a solution to the craziness. Thailand has been wonderful. The Thai people are so nice and accommodating, and the food is delicious. How do you like China?
Hey guys! Great post. We lived in Thailand for nearly a month before we decided to move to China and ATM fees were killing us, seriously. Next time we will follow your advice! How’s been Thailand treating you lately?
Do you have to be an american citizen to open a Charles Schwab account?
Hey guys, unfortunately I think you need a US social security number in order to open a checking account according to their website. I do see that they operate in the UK, but it looks like they may only allow it’s citizens to open brokerage accounts. Maybe their is a similar UK bank that operates in the same way that Charles Schwab does when it comes to foreign ATM fees. I will keep a look out for you guys!!
J and Sacha, look for AEON atm machines. They do not charge any ATM fees :)
Yeah I know, those things are very hard to find. I’ve heard good and bad things about those though. Theres one in the Siam TV Electronics plaza in the upstairs section. But some peops have said theyve made a transaction and the cash hasn’t come out but the account is still credited. Then it took months for them to appeal to get the money back.
Oh wow! Yea, I haven’t seen them everywhere, but they do have one in the Big C in Hang Dong. They also have a ATM locator on their website, but sadly their lack of local ATM fee does not get rid of the foreign ATM fee one’s home bank may impose. Crazy to think that you are charged just for swiping your card in another country…I mean what is so costly about that to the bank? Especially in this age of increased digital technology…